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getting into med with an accounting background.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:33 pm    Post subject: getting into med with an accounting background. Reply with quote

hi everyone, i am an accounting major at uq. i am due to finish my degree next year and have been thinking about sitting gamsat in 2011. i was just wondering whether, as unlikely as it probably is, i was accepted into medical school, how much would i struggle considering that i don't actually have a science background. also, how much would i struggle with the admission process with my background?

are there any bridging courses or anything that anybody would reccommend to prepare me for the admission and, ultimately, med itself?

thanks so much
ps - i'm sorry if i've put this into the wrong forum
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Location: Perth, WA

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This question is often asked.

I'm a first year, and I studied Arts. I have friends from teaching, engineering, graphic arts and commerce.... and they're all doing just fine.

We have people in my uni whose undergrads included:

Surf Science (yes... it was a Bachelor of Surfing)

so clearly, the course is designed for anyone with the potential to be able to achieve. You DONT NEED TO DO a bridging course, however, I would recommend learning about:

1. Biochemistry - OMG this has kicked my backside all semester. Things that take the Biochemistry students minutes to review are taking me hours to learn. Try "Lehninger" its a great textbook

2. Microbiology - Don't know a gram stain? can't distinguish Pseudomonas from Klebsiella? neither could I, and its a lot of work to figure it out. I use a book called "medical microbiology"... can't remember the author. Make sure its a simple though....

3. Physiology - It took me ages just to understand how fluid shifts between compartments, and I'm still not great at it..... "Marieb" is the bible for non science students. all of my physiology starts here, and then progresses to harder texts.

Other than that, most of the stuff you learn will make a lot of sense. The Anatomy is fun, and to be honest, you can't really learn it all that well from a book. You'll learn more about a heart in 10 minutes when you're standing there holding a human heart in your hands, than you will in 10 hours in front of Gray's (shudder).... or one of the other anatomy texts. PBL will draw most of the good stuff out for you, so short of a bit of background in the 'magic 3' above, I wouldn't worry too much.

Please don't worry too much. Get through GAMSAT, get yourself into med, and then start learning some of this stuff. If you REALLY want to prepare, the best thing you can do is to get as strong a financial base behind you as possible.... the less work you need to do while you study the better, the less financial pressure you have the better... so clear your debts, pay off your loans and save up a nice little war chest to help you find your feet....
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is a struggle

but in the end you will pass

for uwa- physiology, anatomy, biochem
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree it's a big struggle. You need to be sure you really want to do it, and have a real 'studying all day' mindset. It's 10x harder than your typical business degree.

The good news is at the end of year 2 you'll be at the same level as everyone else: this is more because it seems you can pass med exams having forgotten biochem, anatomy and physiol, rather than the fact you all know it to the same level. ?Proof? ---> check the OSCE's at your favourite med school. Saying hello and getting permission from the patient to examine them are like 40% of the marks at my school! Also, look at the past exams, the clinical work becomes more important as you go on, and you can 'pass' this without remembering alot of your basic science. Talk to a consultant though: they HATE this fact.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we have units that you just have to pass (clinical skills is a breeze)
case based learning
clinical skills
population health
behaviuoral science

but the units we get a grade for are the killers (and should be concentrated on)
anatomy is a killer (especially since the uni is so unorganized)
biochem (is ok)

it is not that it is hard (well that would depend on the uni you went to maybe) it is that the uni is so unorganized you have no idea what you are supposed to be studying, and once you are behind it gets hard. also, people who know people pass down past exam questions with answers, so it is really unfair on the people who don't have these. and it is "expected to be done as part of networking" it is so totally unbelievable.

the lecturers play a big part on whether it is hard or not. one of our lecturers just makes silly remarks if you ask a question, it really puts you down. but remember, you won't be the only student in this situation

and the prereading is crap/waste of time, just hit neurology textbooks as soon as you get a place

but the sooner you put yourself through it, the sooner you will get through and be out Smile

maybe choose one of the smaller unis, they might care more. the people i met from there love it. i was a snob, i picked a big uni. depends on what specialty you want to enter. if you are just going to be a GP, it is the same bit of paper in the end. and there are extremely few places in other specialties (eg cardiology, surgery etc about 6 new training places each per year for the whole of australia)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and yeah, the financial side of things is true

try to get a good lot of cash behind you before you enter the degree so you don't have to work so much

we have exams virtually every month

and we have to attend all classes, we have to get a medical certificate, and they check up on you ! (i got swine flu and yeah i did attend some classes because i didn;t want to get behind. they asked me if i was attending classes, after i handed in the med cert, and i just said i had been, after the date indicated on the med cert)

in cadiver class i felt like i was going to faint, and in physiology the blue words on the screen were like a wave. but most of the class has had it and attended. once you are behind you are stuffed
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